May 19, 2005, 03:53 PM // 15:53
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Chicago, IL
Profession: W/N
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Advanced (though it shouldn't be) warrior secret!
I can't count the number of times I've seen enemies run from my team and they chase after him/her like lemmings. The enemy [who's smart and wants to live/never gives up...] Has all the right things to stay just out of arm's reach (assuming the team is chasing him with warriors).
And now, the ULTIMATE Warrior secret that everybody in all my 90+ pvp arena games need to know. How do you kill that one enemy you just can't seem to catch/snare? How do you snuff that last annoyance that will allow you to put that mark on your wall of victory? How do you... (slap to face*)
BRING A BOW!!!!
S/He's running, s/he's got no backup, no defense, and whatever skills s/he has requires him/her to stand still to use, which s/he won't...
SHOOT HIM/HER IN THE SPINE!!!
*sorry if this sounds like a rant but what's there to stop a warrior from keeping a nice 9-13 dmg flatbow/longbow in his inventory to just kill those rangers/runners?* "I don't do damage with a bow cause I don't have ranger skills?" You will do no damage with melee if the enemy is smarter than you!
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May 19, 2005, 08:01 PM // 20:01
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#2
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Academy Page
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Alabama USA
Guild: Force of Arms
Profession: W/R
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any ranged attack will work I love hitting them with six 30+ point flares from my warrior /ele when they try to kite.
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May 19, 2005, 08:56 PM // 20:56
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#3
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Academy Page
Join Date: Feb 2005
Guild: Warrior Nation
Profession: R/W
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I would rather just cripple them instead of bringing a weapon that I do 2 damage with
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May 19, 2005, 09:46 PM // 21:46
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#4
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Chicago, IL
Profession: W/N
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That's where the problem lies typhoon...
They either a) use Illusion of Haste which makes ur cripple useless
or b) mend ailments/removal so that crippling them/knockdown isn't an option...
For that enemy you just can't knockdown/cripple, ur spells don't do it either, just whip out a bow/wand/ANYTHING!
I'm just letting this out as a HUGE secret because honestly, these people say I'm a noob at times when the God-like enemy they can't catch gets killed by a single arrow to the spine from my bow...
*shrug*
If it's noobish for a warrior to carry a bow/ranged weapon, then the noobs are obviously smarter than the others...
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May 19, 2005, 11:03 PM // 23:03
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#5
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Manchester, UK
Guild: Soldiers Of Honor
Profession: W/R
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i just picked up ranger today, so i can have a play about with that (w/r now).. should be interesting
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May 20, 2005, 01:27 AM // 01:27
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#7
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Feb 2005
Guild: Black Rose Assassins [BRA]
Profession: W/
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Sprint + Bull's Strike FTW!
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May 20, 2005, 04:14 PM // 16:14
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#9
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Frost Gate Guardian
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I'm a W/E so I keep a max damage fire wand around. I hit for 20+11. It's usefull sometimes.
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May 20, 2005, 04:32 PM // 16:32
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#10
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Ascalonian Squire
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yeah, im thinking about going W/R, frenzy+a good bow and marksmanship would be nice
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May 20, 2005, 04:34 PM // 16:34
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#11
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: May 2005
Guild: Warrior Nation [WN]
Profession: W/N
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This does make sense... I'm still searching for that 15-22 firestaff of my dreams, but anyway... I think just about every secondary has a ranged weapon, bow for rangers, canes/trunchons/wands/staves for the others... the only one who might have a problem are W/R's with no points in marksmanship...
So what would be better damage, no req lowbie bow, or max base bow you don't meet the requirements for =P anyone want to test that?
I wonder Now does Frenzy affect ranged attack speed on staves... gotta test that when I get home.
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May 20, 2005, 06:24 PM // 18:24
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#12
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Pre-Searing Cadet
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yukito Kunisaki
That's where the problem lies typhoon...
They either a) use Illusion of Haste which makes ur cripple useless
or b) mend ailments/removal so that crippling them/knockdown isn't an option...
For that enemy you just can't knockdown/cripple, ur spells don't do it either, just whip out a bow/wand/ANYTHING!
I'm just letting this out as a HUGE secret because honestly, these people say I'm a noob at times when the God-like enemy they can't catch gets killed by a single arrow to the spine from my bow...
*shrug*
If it's noobish for a warrior to carry a bow/ranged weapon, then the noobs are obviously smarter than the others...
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2 words "troll urgent" 10 second half health to full health regen, if you let him get away far enough away he'll cast that, while your shooting him for 2-4 damage. No respectable ranger with skill wouldn't have whirling defense which means if you hit him with a bow you would take 10 damage a shot for 20 seconds while he is evading for 15+. Your tatic comes in handy only if he has less then 50 health. Your best bet, is to trap him with players not spells. Pray he doesn't have buddies killing your team mates while their prime WA is playing with a bow with no bow skill. It has to be the wrost thought out tatic I've ever heard of.
As for wands you have skill in, fire fire fire away X'X.
Last edited by Callander; May 20, 2005 at 06:35 PM // 18:35..
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May 21, 2005, 07:29 PM // 19:29
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#13
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Pre-Searing Cadet
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hamstring.
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May 21, 2005, 09:15 PM // 21:15
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#14
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Tacoma, WA
Guild: First Name Only
Profession: W/E
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Lol I dont bring a bow but I sure do carry a big earth staff =P
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May 22, 2005, 01:33 PM // 13:33
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#15
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Krytan Explorer
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You got sprint...use sprint. I don't understand the problem.
Even hamstring isn't as easy to counter as it seems. Illusion of haste costs 10 energy only lasts 5-10 seconds and takes a second to cast. Thats really not so hot. Also depending on who's running off...it might just be worth it to let the person go. Ie. A monk thats running round in circles is in no way helping the rest of his team, he is a lousy monk.
Also I'm not really sure why you're pushing the bow. Any secondary warrior class has a better ranged weapon, canes, rods etc. That sounds more logical than beating at someone for 4 damage a shot with a bow
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May 23, 2005, 02:14 AM // 02:14
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#16
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: May 2005
Guild: Sc Knights of Kryta
Profession: W/Mo
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Actually i love it when people run.. especially if its a key tank or something.
But to stick to the main point..
Why use a bow as a warrior? I mean.. honestly.
Chances are you'll miss or the person will be smart and get behind a barrier to block the projectile.
use sprint... its there and will never leave you.
using a bow on a fleeing foe will do you maybe.. one.. two damage?
And think about it - Whats the WORST thing about bows in Guild Wars?
SLOW ATTACK SPEED!
You know how far that foe can get before you could get a shot off? That does 2 damage?
use sprint, catch the fool down and do a nice final thrust or something.
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May 23, 2005, 06:40 AM // 06:40
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#17
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Pre-Searing Cadet
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When I'm on my R/E and some warrior is laying the smackdown on me, yeah I turn and kite.. I'm not worried about him pulling a ranged weapon and allowing me to get further away, if they did I would stop a bit further ahead and show them how a bow is -really- used :P.. but I AM praying that he doesn't have sprint.
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May 23, 2005, 07:00 AM // 07:00
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#18
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Forge Runner
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I find chasing pointless... when you are up against someone who actually made their build to be capable of doing that.
The best thing you can do are psychological warfare that create a false safety for your opponent.
Of course... I guess not many people are into psychological warfare.
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May 23, 2005, 07:07 PM // 19:07
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#19
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Academy Page
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Phoenix, AZ of the USA
Guild: Exalted of the Unconquered Sun
Profession: W/Mo
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Eh if someone is taking to the hills on you either A. Sprint and catch them and do them in before they get to far (i think rush or bulls charge will do the same effect if your so inclined) or B. Here's a novel concept, let your ranged team mates take the runner out.
The best line I ever read, if your a warrior at the front do your job and let the other's do their job, it's a team game after all.
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May 23, 2005, 10:22 PM // 22:22
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#20
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Academy Page
Join Date: Apr 2005
Guild: Recruit Meh!
Profession: W/E
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uh chasing? im a w/e 10. srry for being a noob, but ive been playing many pvp battles and i found that the last ones that usually run usually get cornered. i mean, if someone is running u know uve won the battle cuz they are on the defensive forever. and anyways, NOT MANY TEAMS WILL HAVE A ALL WARRIOR TEAMS. so there is no point in bringing a bow if there are other peoples in your team that has range.
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